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captioning funded by cbs good morning. it is monday, january 18th, 2016. welcome to "cbs this morning. iran frees five americans. we talk to the brother of a released prisoner. plus the family of the former fbi agent is still missing in iran. bernie sanders and hillary clinton clash over gun, health care, and wall street in a heated debate. >> sean penn tells charlie about the fears he had when he met with el chapo. what you didn't see last night on "60 minutes." we begin this morning with a look at today's "eye opener." your world in 90 seconds. this is a good day, because once again, we arein seeatg wh is possible with strong american diplomacy. >> the u.s. swaps prisoners with
iran. re three of the americans edleas have arrived safely in germany. >> this all comes as the u.s. imposed new sanctions against iran. >> in campaign 2016, the final democratic face-off before the crucial iowa contest. >> when this campaign began, she was 50 points ahead of me. guess what. in iowa, new hampshire, the race is very, very close. tornadoes roared through central florida. a couple died. >> just wonderful people. the world is not going to be the same without them. in iraq the u.s. embassy in baghdad confirmed that militia indicated. ed three americans who are said tor contractor. >> 12 missing marines off the coast of hawaii and search continues and poor weather conditions is making the search difficult. president obama signed an emergency declaration for people in flint, michigan. >> flint is a crime scene. >> a mission blast off. not everything went according to plan. >> helmet camera video from a
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." norah o'donnell is off. vinita nair is with us. three of the five americans freed by iran in a prisoner swap are now in germany. the americans were traded for seven iranians serving pretty much time in the u.s. reporting jason rezaian and pastor saeed abedini and hekmati were throne out of iran on sunday. >> a fourth student matthew trevithick left separately and we know little about the fifth prisoner. they hope to meet with their families later today. elizabeth, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. it's a grueling and tense 48 hours with one nerve wracking last-minute delay, but, today, at last, the wait is over. a swiss air force plane flew the americans to safety on european soil. and here is the first glimpse of
"the washington post" jason rezaian shaking hands with brett mcgurk of the state department who led the release negotiations. rezaian was charged a year ago with spying. pastor abedini was charged with underground christian worship in iran. a former u.s. marine hekmati was arrested while visiting his grandmother. he was charged with espionage. as soon as the news broke, hekmati's sister was on her way cbs's adriana diaz caught with up her in the chicago airport. >> this is a fog. i'm still in disbelief and honestly everything happened so quickly that i don't think it will hit me until i'm hugging him. >> reporter: and she is all set to help him make up for lost time. >> every new year, there is like a year in review magazine and i would say that he could get caught up and i would save it.
>> reporter: on bore, sarah and her husband were only hours away from a reunion they feared would never come. all three americans were released from tehran's infamous prison after 14 months of top secret bargaining that started on the sidelines of the nuclear talk. also free are mechanich and after fghali as the u.s. released them from the prison swap and violated for american sanctions against iran. finally a mystery man. the fourth american prisoner who was released with the rest of the prisoners and stayed behind in iran. all we know is his name, khosravi-roodsari. the three americans are in the germany hospital and having workups today to make sure they are okay and their family members anxiously awaiting the
big reunion can take place later on. charlie? >> thanks, elizabeth palmer in germany. the brother of jason rezaian is in landstuhl, germany. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> reporter: tell me. how is your brother this morning? >> i was able to speak to him on the phone and he is happy to get out and had a good night's rest and working really hard to get himself better so that he can come back home. >> reporter: ali, a lot of people are so happy your brother is finally coming home. he was held for more than 544 days. you must have so many questions for him. what is it that you want to know? >> you know, i think right now, it's concentrate on making sure he is okay. you know, psychologically and physically. >> what is his psychological state right now? >> he seems very positive, strong. he wants to come out of this, you know, stronger than before and come back. >> reporter: are you angry that it took this long? >> you know, i'm angry that they took him in the first place. >> well, yes. >> jason didn't do anything
wrong. they never had any evidence against him. they put him through this sham of a trial and just dragged it out. it's completely inhumane and no reason this had to happen. you know, jason was one of the best spokespeople for iran when he was there. for them to do this to him for 18 months is just unconscionable. >> he said that he loved the country, ali. he talked about frustration, sure, but he made it very clear i love living here and i like this place. >> yeah, i think that is true. i live in san francisco. it's a beautiful town and things i don't like about it either. jason is just that kind of person. and, you know, he has no -- no qualms with the iranian people. you know, the way he has been treated by parts of the iranian government is really criminal. >> you know, some people are criticizing the deal because they say exactly what you're saying. he had done nothing and they are exchanging him from prisoners that had gone through the judicial process. >> well, it's the congress
unanimously voted on a resolution telling the president to do everything possible to bring home the americans and, you know, there has been support from the president, support from secretary kerry and then all of the hard work of brett mcgurk to bring them home and make this deal happen. you know, in theory, i understand what folks are saying, but in practice, these guys have been held there for whatever reason, for no reason, for this long time, and i'm very thankful that they are on their way home, all of them, and i'm hopeful that the iranians will help out and fulfill their commitment to help find mr. levinson as well. >> you mentioned the president. you spoke to the president. what did he tell you? >> i spoke to him briefly. he said, you know, this shouldn't have happened and his administration had been focused on it and it was very important for them. i know this went to the highest levels of the government to get the deal done. it wouldn't have happened without the support of so many people throughout the government
and, you know, i think family would just like to thank everybody for that. >> thanks, ali. >> ali rezaian, thank you. many people happy for you and your family today. thanks for joining us. >> thank you all. ahead, we will talk to the family of america's longest-held hostage is robert levinson. his wife and son will be here in studio 57 for their very first interview since the prisoner exchange with iran. that is ahead on "cbs this morning." a few hours after the pretty mucher swap, the u.s. imposed new limited sanctions over iran's ballistic missile program. an iranian foreign ministry spokesman say the new sanctions have no moral or legitimacy. margaret brennan is at the white house. she looks at the changing relations with iran. >> reporter: good morning. as those prisoners were released, iran received what it so desperately needs, $100 billion in cash and sanctions relief. that is a controversial reward for cutting a deal to free this
nuclear program. >> this is a good day. >> reporter: president obama said his high stakes diplomacy paid off. iran cannot build a nuclear weapon. >> for decades to come, inspectors will have access to iran's entire nuclear supply chain. in other words, if iran tries to cheat, if they try to build a bomb covertically, we will catch them. >> reporter: tehran surprised u.s. officials by quickly complying with a deal to disable key nuclear facilities. finishing months ahead of u.s. forecasts. shipping out more than 25,000 pounds of atomic fuel, reducing its number of centrifuges and pouring concrete in a plutonium reactor reneding it useless. in change tens of billions worth of iranian assets were unfrozen and sanctions lifted. iran can now buy and sell other goods. its ships are free to sell into foreign ports. and its people can access global markets. the u.s. also agreed to make a $1.3 billion interest payment to
iran to settle a 1970s era dispute. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: iran's president said it marked a golden page in the country's history, but he still does not trust the u.s. and the feeling is mutual. after the prisoners left tehran yesterday, the white house slapped new sanctions on 11 entities and individuals linked to its ballistic missile program. a delayed response to illegal missile launches conducted this fall. that didn't quiet critics, including republican presidential candidates. barack obama will cut a deal with you, whether it's bergdahl, what he did with the castro bothers and now what he has done with iran. >> reporter: the u.s. still does not have diplomatic relations with iran, a country the u.s. considers a major sponsor of terrorism. but, charlie, the white house does want to explore whether there are new ways to work with tehran. it's just not clear at all what the relationship will be after president obama leaves office. >> thanks, margaret. a search is on this morning
for three americans missing in iraq. the contractors reportedly were abducted in baghdad. according to the associated press. diplomats were told last week a iranian-backed militia wanted to kidnap an american or an american contractor. hillary clinton has a wider, national lead over bernie sanders this morning in the race for the democratic presidential nomination. nbc news/weijia jiang wi"wall s with poll released yesterday showed her tied with sanders. clinton attacked sanders in the final democratic debate before the iowa caucuses last night. sanders defended his stances on gun control and health care. nancy cordes is in charleston where the democrats debated. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. because these two candidates are essentially tied in iowa, the competition was intense. in fact, they actually shouted a
good portion of their answers last night and didn't seem to realize they were doing it. >> voted to let guns go on to amtrak, guns go into national parks. >> reporter: hillary clinton's goal was to put the surging bernie sanders on the defensive. first on gun control. >> he has voted with the nra, with the gun lobby numerous times. he voted against the brady bill five times. >> i think secretary clinton knows that what she she says is very disingenuous. i have a d-minus voting record from the nra. >> reporter: she also took aim at his health care plan, which would replace all private insurance with state-run coverage. >> but the fact is we have the affordable care act. that is one of the greatest accomplishments of president obama. to tear it up and start over again, pushing our country back into that kind of contentious debate, thif is the wrong direction. >> we are not going to tear off the affordable care act.
i helped write. but we are going to move on top of that to a medicare for all. >> reporter: throughout the night, clinton cast herself as president obama's greatest ally and national heir a push to win back voters. >> president obama has led our country out of the great recession. senator sanders called him weak. disappointing. >> reporter: sanders argued some of clinton's strongest ties are to wall street. >> you've received over $600,000 of speaking fees from goldman sachs in one year. goldman sachs is not going to bring forth a secretary of treasury for a sanders administration. >> reporter: their clashes made it hard at times for former maryland governor martin o'malley to get a word in. >> secretary clinton, i cut you off and i'll give you 30 seconds to respond on the issue of lone wolf. >> can i get 30 seconds too?
>> reporter: under pressure from the clinton camp, sanders released details of his health care plan about two hours before the debate. it includes a 2% tax on most americans, which he says will still be cheaper than the private insurance they pay for now. >> nancy, thank you. republicans are also feeling the pressure ahead of the upcoming iowa caucuses. the feud between iowa front runners donald trump and ted cruz is escalating. they traded new jabs over the weekend after last week's gop debate. major garrett is in washington with a growing rivalry is now getting personal. >> reporter: good morning. it's politics as usual for donald trump and ted cruz. i guess we can forget all of their different kinds of things. they can throw mud and hurl insults just like -- well, just like every one of the mill politician. i. he was very pro choice and he was open to gay marriage and his explanation for all of that, he said i'm a new yorker. >> reporter: ted cruz again went
after donald trump's defense of new york values. >> those are what new york values are. they are not iowa values. >> reporter: trump countered that cruz has failed to fully disclose loans from goldman sachs and citigroup and that makes him a hypocrite. >> he wants to look like robin hood he is protecting the people from the banks when he is borrowing money. >> reporter: trump rolled out a new schoolyard attack on his rival. >> a nasty guy and nobody likes him and nobody in congress likes him and nobody likes him once they get to know him. >> reporter: and critical of supreme court justice john roberts who helped obama survive legal challenges. in. >> he turned out to get roberts as roberts turned out to be an absolute disaster. >> one of the reasons that i like ted cruz so much. >> reporter: a super pact backing cruz produced this ad praising cruz's praise against
him. >> he should be controversial. >> reporter: senator marco rubio also kept cruz in his cross-hairs calling cruz a flip-flopper. >> i believe i'm the only one in the republican field that can unite the republican party. i know hillary clinton does not want to run against me. >> reporter: rubio is competing to be the so-called mainstream alternative to trump or cruz. christie told voters in iowa this week that rubio and cruz are one-term senators like the president was in 2008 and voting for that experience and expecting better results, christie said, was the definition of insanity. charlie. >> thanks, major. florida is recovering this morning from a deadly tornado outbreak. two grandparents were killed in this mobile home outside of t p tampa. another twist ripped through a gulf coast neighborhood in sarasota and another one struck west of palm beach. today, search continues for 12 missing marines near hawaii.
the coast guard has searched 19,000 miles off the coast of owe oahu. a laser strike against a coast guard search plane over the weekend complicated the search efforts there. small amounts of debris have been found but there is no sign of any survivors. off the coast of new zeal d zealand. all 50 jumped over this boat to escape a fire. they were rescued by other boats and the tourist boat later sank. the plum meting price of oil is weighing on global investors. markets in asia and europe this morning are mixed. the cost of crude is below $30 a barrel for the first time in 12 years. the average price of gas is now $1.89 a gallon, the lowest since 2009. >> the nfl's top teams will play on sunday for a chance to the super bowl. peyton manning rekindled his old magic last night in denver and led the broncos from a come from
behind victory beating pittsburgh 23-16. the broncos face tom brady and the patriots in the afc championship here on cbs. carolina will play arizona in the nfc championship. the panthers beat seattle on sunday 31-24. we are counting down to super bowl 50. jim nantz and phil simms of cbs sports will bring you all of the action from levi stadium in santa clara, california, on sunday, february 7th. that is right here on cbs. >> if you're a football fan, you had a good weekend whether you're sitting at the bar or sitting at home. >> you can't wait for next sunday. >> those were great games. >> the one that got me most was archie manning watching his son. >> a city's water crisis is part of the republican presidential debate. we go to flint, michigan, where the big names joining the call
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morning. coming up in this half hour, a debate begins in the uk today on whether to ban donald trump. petitions supporting the proposal has 500,000 signatures and how some brits compare trump to hate creature. sean penn talked with charlie rose last night on "60 minutes." why he feared for his life is ahead. time to show you some of the morning's headlines from around the globe. the "miami herald" remembers an american missionary killed in burkina faso. rittering was among 20 people killed on friday when al qaeda fighters stormed a hotel and cafe. he ran an orphanage in the west african country. a pastor from his florida church called him a modern day martyr. a former taco bell executive accused of attacking an uber driving is now suing the driver. we showed you benjamin goldman
hitting this uber driver in october. he was charged and later apologized. golden is now filing a $5 million lawsuit. he claims he suffered invasion of privacy and emotional distress. london's "guardian" says pro tennis officials are blasting a report that alleges a widespread match fixing cover-up. abbc and buzzfeed news report says 16 top players, including grand slam winner, may have thrown matches for betters. no players have been named. tennis officials deny a cover-up. they say the suspected match fixing happened years ago and was investigated. "the detroit news" reports on the flint water crisis coming up in thebate. the candidates blasted michigan's governor for his response to the lead contamination. teams this weekend visit 5,000 homes. president obama signed an emergency declaration. flint will get millions of dollars in federal aid along with water bottles and filters. adriana diaz is in flint, with
demands for more help. >> reporter: good morning. we are in the home of a flint resident who, like thousands of others, said what they really need is clean pipes. this tap water used to be brown. it now looks and smells fine. but the corroded pipes still make it unsafe to drink. frustration over flint's tainted water supply is spilling over. >> flint is now a crime scene. >> reporter: michigan's governor rick snyder declared a state of emergency over the city's water two weeks ago. but state official may have known about the problem months earlier because city data showed a spike in lead. during sunday's presidential debate, hillary clinton and bernie sanders blasted the republican governor. >> the population, which is poor in many ways, and majority african-american, has been drinking and bathing in lead-contaminated water. and the governor of that state acted as though he didn't really
care. >> a man who acts that irresponsibly should not stay in power. >> reporter: protesters gathered outside flint city hall saturday. >> we need federal help. >> reporter: to see liberal activist michael moore who grew up in the city of nearly 100,000 and says president obama's emergency declaration is not enough. >> it's not just the water crisis. it's a racial crisis! it's a poverty crisis. >> reporter: to save money in 2014 flint stopped paying for water from detroit and tapped into its own river instead but the river water stripped lead from pipes. since the move the number of children with high lead levels doubled and ten people have died from legionnaire's disease. the city has been reversed to the switch but the water is still unsafe. >> i'm pouring bottles of water over my meat. >> reporter: since january 9th, flints has received 26,000 cases of water and over the weekend cher sent 181,000 additional
bottles. we spoke to flint's mayor moments after the president's declaration. >> we didn't deserve what happened but we do deserve this time of response. >> reporter: this is the water residents can actually drink. many will be protesting tomorrow at the governor's state of the state address. after last night's debate, governor snyder tweeted, political statements and finger pointing from candidates only distract from the flint water crisis. >> our "60 minutes" interview with the actor sean penn is gaining global attention. we spoke about penn's conversation with joaquin guzman, the drug lord known as el chapo. guzman was captured this month. he met with penn while on the run. we have a part of the interview you did not see last night. penn says he was not out to glorify el chapo. do you make a moral equivalency between el chapo and people who either buy or sell drugs in america? >> i do, if it's me. i can't -- i don't make that
judgment for everyone else, but i wouldn't go so far to buy or sell drugs. >> reporter: so he is no better than you or worse than you? >> i say i can't make him worse than me. if i'm not out there doing everything that i can to get a conversation going on the way in which we prosecute that war. >> reporter: do you believe that part of the reason is such a controversy about this is that because people appreciate the nature of the man and what he has done, and the empire he has created, and the ravages that the product that he sells across the border have done to a society? >> well, it's funny you use the word "appreciate." because i think that there is -- and there always has been in the american culture a romance of the outlaw. i don't share it. >> reporter: you don't see him as a romantic figure? >> no, i don't see him as a romantic figure. >> reporter: how do you see him? i mean, you spent seven hours on
a mountain top. >> i see him as one man who, with the choices he was given, with the imagination, and perhaps the interpru neuroial drive that he had nached it atto something that is harvest and selling in a very different way and experienced its usage. >> reporter: were you fearful for your life at any time? >> look. i think it's ludicrous. >> reporter: to not? >> to not consider what can be an extraordinarily unpredictable situation where you have a lot of irrational people, where you have somebody who is the target of militaries and law enforcement. of course. but, look. i don't know how to fly an airplane, man. every time i get on the plane, i'm relaxed. i don't know if those two guys are going to have a heart attack
and this big bird is going to fall out of the sky, so once you make the decision, you focus on the things that you can control. i'm not in control of any of that. >> reporter: would you do everything again? >> yes. i mean, i hope to talk to him again, you know, under whatever circumstances. >> reporter: because? >> while this article had its focus and its intention, i'm interested in asking more. >> a lot of information. how long was the interview? because as long as it was, i still wanted to see more about what he had to say. >> we talked about an hour and a half on tape. >> what was the most surprising thing for you about the interview? >> it's hard to say because there were so many things. i was surprised at what he said about the mexican government. he doesn't believe that his trip there had anything to do with the recapture, because he believes that he was under
surveillance all along and that el chapo was under surveillance before he arrived. >> i thought it was interesting when he was stunned that he even talked to him. he did not think that would happen. >> we will have new portions of our conversation in the next hour and he explains why el c p chapo was captured alive and you can see my entire interview tonight on pbs. 500,000 people in britain are lined up against one man. mark phillips is outside the parliament morning. >> reporter: in the storied history of this place, there is never one like scheduled for this afternoon. should the united kingdom ban donald trump? seriously. coming up on "cbs this morning." if you're headed out the door, watch us live allow the cbs all-access app on your digital device. bob levinson will be in studio 57. we will be right back.
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republican front-runner is the focus of a different debate this morning in london on. legislators will discuss a petition signed by more than 500,000 to ban trump from entering britain. mark fiphillips has more. >> reporter: donald trump is doing here what he has done at home, become the news. the debate, in fact, won't take place on the floor of the house of commons. it will be in westminster hall which is the oldest part of this complex. it's fair to say it's almost 1,000 years of history, it's never seen anything quite like this. donald trump has always been seen as something of a grotesque american curiosity in britain, even when he was promising to invest hundreds of millions in scottish golf resorts. >> we have amazing friendships here. >> reporter: back then, his most outspoken opponent was a local farmer named michael ford who was refusing to move. but donald trump has many more
critics now. ever since this. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> reporter: he was hardly finished before a petition was launched demanding that he be banned from the uk. it has since gathered more than 500,000 signatures and that has triggered an automatic debate in parliament and some scathing reaction from the prime minister. >> i think his remarks are divisive, stupid, and wrong. >> reporter: even his former scottish pals like former first minister of scotland appearing on a radio call-in have jumped on the dump donald band wagon. >> because he is a republican candidate i think is like hitler and 500,000 are signing the petition. >> reporter: people like donald trump have been banned from the uk before but not rich american
men running for president. still, that is what is on the table and that is what mps like this lady are proposing. >> my understanding that he is banned before he enters the uk. will the government lead by example in considering making mr. donald trump -- >> yea! >> reporter: the short answer to that question is almost certainly not. but the debate does have people talking, including the leader of britain's parliamentary opposition who wants to take trump to britain and take him unto his office and introduce him to his mexican wife and take him to a mosque then. gayle? >> oh, boy! >> sounds like the solution to me. >> that will be quite the trip. interesting to see what donald's response it. i will think donald trump will say, i have no desire to go to england. i never want to go there. i'm sure he'll have a response before the day is over. thank you, mark. nascar racer tony stewart is fired up in the stands and
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♪ it is monday, january 18th, 2016. welcome back to "cbs this morning. more real news ahead, including the new battle between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. former clinton adviser james carville is in studio 57 to review the democratic race. first, here's a look at today's "eye opener" at 8:00. a grueling and tense 48 hours, but, today at last, the wait is over. >> how is your brother this mog?rnin >> he is just really happy to be out and working really hard to get himself better so he can comeback home. >> as those prisonerser we released, iran received a controversial reward for cutting a deal to free this nuclear program. >> the competition was intense.
in fact, they actually shouted a good portion of their answers last night. >> politics as usual for donald trump and ted cruz. they can hurl insults just like every other run-of-the-mill politician. he>> t w tapater used to be brown and now looks and smells fine, but the corroded pipes still make it unsafe to drink. fair to say there has never been a debate like the one this afternoon. should the united kingdom ban donald trump. >> if he does get elected, it would be a very sticky wicket. >> the gop debate, donald trump defended his concerns whether ted cruz is eligible to be president, saying there is a big question mark on your head. but there is also a big question mark on trump's head if the wind hits him just right. announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by liberty mutual insurance. i'm charlie rose with gayle king and vinita nair.
norah is off. three of the prisoners freed in a prisoner swap. they were traded for seven iranians held in the u.s. jason rezaian and saeed abedini and amir hekmati at a germany hospital and one stayed in iran and we know little about him. they say matthew trevithick is already in massachusetts and released earlier from the the others. >> hekmati was charged with espionage while visiting his grandmother in iran. adriana diaz spoke with hekmati's sister who is traveling to see him in germany. the swap followed 14 months of diplomatic bargaining that started on the sidelines. of the iran nuclear talks.
one american was not released. robert levinson disappeared to iran in 2007. his wife and son are here in studio 57 for their first interview since the weekend's prisoner swap. we will get their reaction ahead on "cbs this morning." democratic presidential candidates have two weeks left to sharpen their attacks before the first primary. the three sparred last night in the final televised debate before the iowa caucuses. they debated aggressively, especially about health care and wall street. >> my proposal to provide health care get private insurance out of health insurance and lower the cost of health care. >> i'm not sure we are talking about the plan you introduced tonight or the plan you introduced nine times in the congress. >> what this is really about is not the rational way to go forward. it's medicare for all. it is whether we have the guts to stand up to the private insurance companies. >> president obama has led our country out of the great
recession. senator sanders called him weak, disappointing. >> you know, we are friends and we worked together on many issues. you've received over $600,000 in speaking fees from goldman sachs in one year. >> now you bring up president obama here in south carolina and in defense of the fact of your cozy relationship with wall street. >> the hedgefund billionaires who are running ads against me right now and karl rove who started running an ad against me right now, funded by money from the financial services sector, sure thing, i'm the one they don't want to be -- >> governor o'malley? >> with us is democratic political strategist james carville, a longtime clinton adviser and managed bill clinton's 1992 presidential campaign and he is a hillary clinton supporter and donor but did not have an official role in her campaign. >> thank you for that. >> knowing where you lie. >> right. >> how did she do and what dent do you think she might or might
not have made in what some people call the surge in iowa? >> right. a, i think she did very well and i think the contrast, pretty clear that she is saying she wants to build on the things that president obama did, like affordable care act. i think she saying she wants to build where we are. i think he is saying we need to get rid of the affordable care act. >> surely you she is suggesting to be tougher on wall street than he is. >> that is separating those two roles of banks. >> i understand but she is making an argument that -- from what i can tell, wall street is not crazy about dodd-frank. she says she wants to keep that, build on. i think just think of it as a redistinction base. and i think she went out to make that distinction last night and i think she made it pretty easily and pretty convincingly.
>> do you think hillary clinton will be tougher on wall street than bernie sanders? >> maybe not. but she will be plenty tough enough. i mean, bernie sanders is kind of a gold standard. if that is a question of the election, i think she will be plenty tough enough and i think wall street does not like dodd-frank and i think she is a big supporter of it. >> we have to recognize you have new orleans values, right? >> that's right. >> a lot of people are saying this pivot sort of the attack we saw last night might be a little late in the campaign. her husband bill clinton made a comment about it in "the new york times." do you think that this should have started earlier, that she stopped focusing on the republicans -- >> no. i mean, look. i think the big question she is saying if he can win, is, okay, right now we are going our way. democrats are going to start picking a nominee. by the way, if the democrats lose this, we lose everything and totally wiped out, the
house, senate, governors, legislators, everything. the simple question how are you going to pay for this? we keep getting told we will come up with that we will come up with that. i think before democratic voters go to the post and talk about who we are going to pick, i think these are hard questions. i guarantee you the republicans will ask these questions in the general election and i think people are waiting for his answer on this kind of stuff and i think it's a totally legitimate question to ask. they ask about his health record. as well as send a letter, okay, see what the letter says. >> james, can we talk about the poll numbers because they are all over the place. >> sure. >> one poll has her 25 points ahead in the national poll. the gap is clearly closing in iowa and new hampshire. >> right. >> what poll do you pay attention to and what are you concerned about when you look at those numbers? >> just as a sort of general thing. a lot of the difference is how do they screen, how do they ask questions and it's really not a suitable question for the time that we have here.
i think like most people, i kind of look at the aggregate numbers and i look at the direction of the polls, more than the actual specific number. >> what are you worried about? >> i wore about everything. >> they say i understand the clinton people worry. of course, i worry in politics. everything. until the votes are counted, i'm scared to death. >> you should be. taking the experience you've had in presidential politics, does it look like through your eyes that donald trump will get the republican nomination? >> look. cruz, i think, has more thought out. i mean, he's got real fire had nhis eyes but trump, you know, he is very crafty and, charlie, you've watched a lot of entertainers and stuff in your day. he has a real timing touch to him. he can really turn a phrase. if i had to bet right now, and i've said consistently i thought cruz was the most talented of
these republican politicians i've seen in a long time, he was at my house weeks ago for a fund-raiser. >> had you a chat with him? >> i guided him on 33 cents in predicted and iowa 58 and seeing how my investment was doing given the stock market and i have to make money on politics. i think he he's got a big -- he has an idea where he is going and pretty thought out. >> you think cruz more than trump? >> i think so. >> thank you, james carville, very much. did sean penn think drug lord el chapo would be taken alive? ahea
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our kroorns coordination. we will never forget about bob. each and every day but especially our hearts are with the levinson family and will not rest until their family is whole again. president obama vows the u.s. will work hard to free robert levinson. he is a former fbi agent and disappeared more than eight years ago in iran. he was working as a consultant for the cia. levinson is the longest held american hostage ever. in a statement this weekend his family said, quote, we are happy for the other families. but once gwynne, bob levinson has been left behind. his wife christine and their son daniel is with us for their first interview since the prisoner swap was announced over the weekend. we know this is a very difficult day and we thank you for joining us this morning. i wonder if you were caught off-guard by the prisoner release and what you were told and your first thoughts when you were told that bob levinson was not among them? >> we were not told.
i actually had to turn on the tv to find out what was going on, which was really just disappointing. and i felt very betrayed and devastated that i hadn't even received a phone call to let me know this was happening, because we had been promised that when the other people were released, bob would be with him and he was not. >> you felt betrayed by? >> by the united states government. >> by the president and the secretary of state? >> yes. >> who was the promise from and have they given you any reason why bob was not one of the prisoners? >> they have not given us a reason why and in the state department, in all of our meetings, everyone has always said to us that they would get bob out. because, of course, he was still there after the three hikers were released as well. >> do you know whether they asked for his release in this negotiation? >> what i believe is they asked for his help -- their help to find him in order to get him
home. >> because iranians say they don't know where he is? >> right. >> what contact have you had with the government since the release yesterday? have you been in contact with anyone? >> i actually talked to monaco and mark after the prisoners were released. >> what did they tell you? >> they told me they were hoping to get in touch with me before it happened but they had not been able to. >> dan, it's been since 2011 since you guys have seen photos. >> that is correct. >> i hate to ask this question about are you nervous he is not even alive any more? >> obviously, it's been a long time. he's been over there for nine years now. he was never in good health on at the onset. we, obviously, believe he is still alive and the government has told us there is no credible evidence to suggest that he is not alive. so, of course, we are going to go forward and we are not going to give up and we are going to do everything possible because we still believe he is alive and we are not going to stop until we hear otherwise. >> but is there credible evidence that he has been -- is
being held by the iranians? >> well, two weeks after his sappearance, iranian state -- >> ten years ago? >> yes. this is 2007 in april. iranian state-run media in april said he was in the hands, i'm quoting verbatim in the hands of iranian security forces and would be, quote, freed in a matter of days. and this has been almost nine years now which is absolutely ridiculous. we believe the iranians know where he is, they know exactly what happened to him. we went to iran in december of 2007 and retraced his steps. that airport on kish island where he disappeared, very tiny. the trip from his hotel was five minutes. and everybody knows exactly on that island what is going on. >> what do you think the iranians reason is for saying they don't know where he is if, in fact, they know where he is and what is their reason for not giving him up if they have him in custody? >> look. on both sides, on our side of the government and on the
iranian side, there were mistakes made, and the iranian, we don't know who is overzealous and decided that my dad would be a good person to pick up, but i think there were mistakes made and it's really hard from the walk-back from what happened, especially after this long. that is worrying to us. thank you so much. >> we hope to see you next time under better circumstances. >> thank you. former secretary of defense robert gates returns to studio 57. his reaction to the agreement with iran and his book. that is ahead on "cbs this morning." seek treatment. whether i should i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. harvoni is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who've had no prior treatment. it's the one and only cure that's one pill, once a day for 12 weeks.
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believe that the mexican government did not want to see him alive and they did not want to see him talk? because he had information that you believe would be do great damage to reputations at the highest levels of the mexican society? yes? >> yes. i think that is part of it. >> reporter: but they did let him to live, so what does that tell you? >> it probably means that despite the incredible corruption, despite the things i've told you that i feel about the mexican government, that there is still more good people than bad. >> i believe that too. i believe that about the world in general, still more good people than mad. he is such a man of his convictions. >> he didn't talk a lot about -- he basically talked in the article about what he saw with his own eyes and what was said. we will have more from our "60 minutes" conversation with sean penn tonight on my pbs program.
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president of both parties depended on the knowledge of robert gates, the former secretary of defense and cia chief is here in the green room. hello! >> good morning. >> robert gates, we will see if he believes the iran deal put america at risk. also his new book on lessons of leadership. crossfit workouts for kids. ten-year-olds took part in the competition over the weekend and we will find out if that is too young for this high intensity exercise. that is ahead. time to show you some of the morning's headlines from around the globe. "forbes" reports on celebrating martin luther king jr. day of service. americans across the country will be volunteering to honor the late civil rights leader. the federal holiday is seen as a day on, not a day off. federal website can help you find a volunteer opportunity near you. we posted a link at "cbs this morning".com. "usa today" reports on an increase in shipping rates. the united states post office, yesterday, raised priority male package charges about 10%. this is the first increase in more than three years.
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he is certainly that. a former washington insider is here with his views of iran. robert gates served eight presidents in both parties and he was defense secretary and led the california and now presidene boy scouts of america. his new book is called "a passion for leadership lessons on change and reform from 50 years of public service." we are pleased to welcome secretary gates back to studio 57. much to talk about including leadership and your book. start with iran and this deal. how do you see the release of the hostages and iran getting back some people that had been convicted? >> well, you know, we made deals like this many times in the past, with the soviets, with other countries and there has always been criticism, did you get enough for what you got? and -- for what you gave. and without knowing the details of the negotiation, what was asked for and what they ended up
with, that's a hard question to answer. i think that one of the things that i would have pressed for, and maybe they did, was for definitive information about the fbi man and either proof of life or proof of death, or something to bring closure at least. >> you're talking about robert levinson whose wife was just here. the iranians deny they knew anything about it? >> what i don't know is how hard the administration pushed to get information for that. but i guess the point i'm making is that the, in principal, the idea of making these kind of exchanges is absolutely nothing new. >> with respect to iran again, they have, so far, pretty much kept up -- met their end of the deal and gotten their material out of iran that they promised to do. are you encouraged about that?
>> well, i wouldn't say i'm encouraged. i think they have done what was in their own self-interest. they have done what was required in order to get the lyfting of the sanctions. $50 to 100 billion dollars is a lot of cash. you can argue how much is going for the iranian economy and how much of it is going to fuel terrorism and interference elsewhere in the region, but the notion it's all going to go to the economy, i think, is unrealistic and naive. >> do you think deals like this put american lives at risk? marco rubio over the weekend seemed to imply that it does. >> well, i think -- that has always been the argument about negotiating with terrorists, that you put -- put people at greater risk. when you're dealing with a government, i think the circumstances are somewhat different because you do have more leverage than with a terrorist group, for example. a nonstate actor.
so i think, you know, you always -- we ran into this kind of criticism when we would do these exchanges with the soviets and we would end up trading real spies for dissidents, and so, you know, people will say they can pick up any dissident that they want and use them to get spies. but i think at the end of the day, they worked out in our best interests. >> we want to ask you about the book because it is interesting. you talk about how large institutions can bring about reform and change. one of the biggest things you say is just listening. there is a way to do this? change bureaucracy without making enemies? >> you say boston should listen. let's be clear. boston should listen. >> not just -- >> right. naming no names. >> i think the key thing about the book is that, you know, people like trump and sanders have locked on to the fact that a lot of americans are unhappy and frustrated with our elected
leaders and with paralysis and polarization and so on. the point i want to make in this book is americans are also frustrated and angry because every day of their lives, they have to deal with bureaucracies that are underperforming or incompetent, they are often arrogant and it doesn't have to be that way. these bureaucracies and whether it's a little organization or a private sector or in government at any level, these organizations can be changed and reformed and this book is basically how you do that. >> yeah. you talk about the reality of bureaucracies, that they are a part of our life no matter who we are, including standing in line. when was the last time, you, robert gates, stood in line? >> at a deli here in new york! >> i knew you were going to answer that. >> i was wondering. go ahead, charlie. go ahead. >> i just want to come to one interesting thing about the iran contradeal which you were involved in. you were a deputy to the cia director. you make an interesting point. you said while i did nothing
wrong, i didn't do enough. >> yeah. i specifically said i didn't do enough right. >> right. >> i did -- well, as you say, and one of my regrets -- you know, i remember george schultz writing in his memoir that he didn't give himself very high marks in terms of how he had dealt with iran contra. i think the big lesson that i learned from that whole episode was the importance of what -- what the military would call square corners, that everything does need to be done according to the book, and you do need to -- not just observe the rules, but the spirit of the rules. and making sure that government operates well inside the baselines, if you will. >> you have to be transparent and accountable for your own actions? >> absolutely, absolutely. >> can i ask you one quick
question about the fight against isis? are we doing everything so far we should be doing? >> i think we are slowly moving to where we are doing what we should be doing. >> slowly moving is not complimentary. >> that is because months ago, i and others were saying we need more special forces on the ground, we need more air controllers and spotters, we need to have trainers down to the battalion level. we need to have trainers with the sunni tribes, with the kurds, as well as with the iraqi security forces, and we need to have a safe haven in syria. now, the administration has moved for more special forces and they have increased the tempo of the fighter support. they have increased the training, they are working with the tribes, but it's taking them months and months to get to this point. one of the points about this campaign that nobody seems to be focused on is that every place
that has been liberated is in complete ruins. every one of these -- khobani, ramadi, baji, sinjar, they are all destroyed. the question is who is going to pay to rebuild them? they are all basically sunni sites. >> can i say one closing thing about your book? you talk about how leadership applies regardless of what you're doing and you talk about the mistakes you made with cia and the a answer m and being a b scout leaders there are lessons that you could do that are common with the leadership. >> we have to go. >> the book goes on sale tomorrow. bob gates, thank you. a high intensity sport is growing popular with the kids these days but is
mark strassmann is at a gym in atlanta to show us how the workout's popularity among kids is raising health and safety concerns. >> reporter: good morning. people in this crossfit facility are working up a sweat before day break. experts worry whether crossfit is a good fit, whether it's safe. i talked to a couple of kids who competed over the weekend in water palooza with their parents cheering hem op. six years ago, 41-year-old sean ramirez did his first crossfit wrorko workout and was hooked on it. >> you have your gymnast and met blick conditions and strengthen and weightlifting component. it can range from walking on your stands, handstand push-up to anything you're doing body weight management. right? push-ups, pull-ups and that stuff. it means always having something different that you're doing to your body. >> reporter: since 2007 athletes of all ages have competed in the
annual crossfit games. winners earn the title of fittest man or woman on earth. and you've won it twice. >> i have. >> reporter: which makes you? >> the fittest man on earth or the fittest old man, if you would, because it's matches. not just the young 18 to 39 division. it's 40 to 44. >> reporter: did you imagine from the beginning this would be something for kids? >> you know, i never really thought of it that way. >> reporter: crossfit for kids has taken off. in this miami class, two of the fittest kids were brothers. 10-year-old reed ramirez and 12-year-old ty. yes, sean is their father. ty and reed watched their dad do it and jumped in. >> i never saw this before, and they just said it's amazing. just this one person in the whole world is like lives with me and, like, i'm related to him. >> reporter: what did you think about what he was doing? did it make you want to do it? >> yeah.
>> yeah. like it inspired us. >> reporter: crossfit, as exercise for kids, has its critics. >> i've had a couple of kids in my office who have come in with crossfit injuries. >> reporter: dr. jeremy frank is an orthopaedic surgeon at joe dimaggio's children's hospital. >> i think crossfit can build up strength and strengthening as long as there is proper supervision and training and you need to protect kids from having injuries to their growing health plates and growing bone. >> reporter: kids are learning technique and their bodies at the same time. is that a concern in crossfit? >> absolutely not. i think when they are learning the right technique, kids are sponges. >> reporter: this past weekend, downtown miami hosted water palooza, a crossfit style competition. 1,350 athletes, including kids as young as 10. the ramirez brothers competed. they both told us they expected to win. as a licensing company, crossfit inc. has nothing to do with
water palooza and believe some kids may be too young to compete. the company told us in a statement, crossfit inc. does not agree with woda pa look is a's sanctioning. the youngest age that crossfit inc. will allow in the crossfit games is 14. steve suarez cofounded wadapalooza years ago. >> they may not be okay with it but we believe functional movement is okay with kids under a scale in a very controlled manner, we think it's excellent for kids 10 to 14 years old. >> reporter: in case you're wondering, ty ramirez beat everyone in his age group, including his younger brother. crossfit's minimum age for children crossfit age is 3. their biggest worry is kids lifting heavy weights in these workouts but with proper supervision, it should be safe. >> key word is proper
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today we honor dr. martin luther king, jr. and you can see the show, the peace march in d.c. >> how students honored dr. king by reciting "i have a dream" speech from the steps of the lincoln memorial. >> this is "great day washington". good morning. you're home from work, maybe. thank you for joining us. my name is chris leary.
maybe they are out at the peace rallies or you're home tuning into us. "great day washington" is all about feel-good news and inspiring the community. >> it is nice. is this working for us? >> well -- it is an hour out of my day. they say it is work, but it is really not work. i get to spend time with you, you, our audience and it is always like a family day. >> speaking of family, we have some students, principals and teachers in our audience from a school in d.c. called watkins elementary. stay tuned because every year they go and they literally walk in the foot steps of dr. martin luther king and it turns into a huge tradition. we'll tell you more about that, but we have some other great guests on the show. >> we do. megan was out there. she was at seven springs and since it is so cold this morning, i looked like a snowman in my car because it takes awhile for my car to heat
up, but she is going to show us a great place to go snow boarding and or skiing so we can celebrate this cold, cold weather. >> and it is snowing and might as well take advantage of it and go to a ski resort or stay at home and if you have a choice, take advantage of the cold weather and go to a ski resort. >> go on the ice, too. a guy named willie, he will show us how the struggles he had starting out in the nhl and how he is helping people. >> i love that willly is in today's show because a lot of motivational speakers talk about charting new territory and they use a lot of martin luther king quotes. i have one for you. i watched a motivational series and this is from martin luther king, jr. he says take the first step in faith. you don't have to see the whol